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Andrei NituAndrei Nitu (@AndreiNbets) es un Tipster Profesional de Baloncesto. Proporciona picks en las principales ligas de baloncesto europeas. Desde junio de 2010 hasta Mayo de 2013 Nitu ofreció sus picks en Betadvisor, donde fue nombrado Tipster del año en 2012. En este periodo ha conseguido un yield del 9.18% en 1,743 picks. Más tarde creó su propio site Andrei Nitu Bets. En esta nueva etapa ha enviado 214 picks y ha conseguido un yield del 8.50% (a fecha 9 dic. 2013).

¿Cómo te va en tu nueva etapa, trabajando por tu cuenta, fuera de Betadvisor?

Mucho mejor porque ahora mismo tengo un contacto directo con mis clientes y se exactamente cuáles son sus necesidades y cómo hacer que las cosas funcionen bien para ambas partes. Además, el sistema de compensación de Betdvisor es poco competitivo para los Tipsters, lo que me hizo concentrarme menos en Betadvisor y más en inversores privados.

¿Cuál fue tu primer contacto con el mundo de las apuestas deportivas?

Mi primer contacto con las apuestas fue cuando tenía 16-17 años. Apostaba en casas físicas en todos los deportes.

¿Por qué te especializaste en Baloncesto?

Porque vi que en el balonceso tenía una ventaja sobre las casas de apuestas y porque hay mucha más matemática que en otros deportes.

 ¿Durante cuánto tiempo has estado trabajando como Tipster? ¿Esperas seguir como Tipster durante muchos más años?

Empecé como Tipster en el site de apuestas más grande de Rumania, en 2008. Dos años más tarde estaba enviando mis picks en Betadvisor y en junio de 2013 lancé mi propio site, andreinitubets.com.

 ¿Qué es lo mejor y lo peor de la profesión de Tipster?

Lo mejor es que gano dinero con mi pasión. Me encanta lo que hago y no puedo esperar a levantarme por la mañana y empezar a “trabajar”. Tengo mi propio horario y soy mi propio jefe. Y puedo trabajar desde my portátil en una playa del Caribe. :-)

Lo malo de esta profesión es que poca gente la entiende y a veces es difícil responder a la típica pregunta: “¿A qué te dedicas?”  Además, cuando vienen las malas rachas… no es fácil.

¿Cuál es tu método para encontrar apuestas con valor y seleccionar tus picks?

Analizo partidos, conozco a ciertas personas de diferentes países que me dan información y pongo todo junto en mi cabeza para encontrar el valor. No es un método particular, sólo trabajo duro, un buen feeling y un gran conocimiento sobre lo que significa apostar. Esto me hace ser uno de los mejores.

La mayoría de los picks que proporcionas son apuestas con handicap de ligas europeas de baloncesto. ¿Caen sus cuotas con fuerza después de que publicas tus picks? ¿Crees que hay todavía valor para tus suscriptores?

Si no bajas las cuotas no eres un buen tipster. Las casas de apuestas temen las cuentas ganadoras y bajan las cuotas cuando ven a ciertos apostadores ganadores hacer una apuesta. Mis clientes tienen cuentas ganadoras, que están marcadas por las casas como Pinnacle y cuando hacen una apuesta las cuotas bajan. Si tienes una cuenta en el mayor número de casas posibles incrementas las probabilidades de coger la misma cuota que yo o incluso mejores.

Siempre me gusta publicar apuestas de Pinnacle porque son el bookie de referencia en las apuestas de Baloncesto. Pero muchas veces hay mejores cuotas/líneas fuera de Pinnacle y mis clientes pueden conseguirlas si tienen cuenta en esos bookmakers.

Según tus estadísticas de la NBA en Betadvisor, no has podido entrar en beneficios después de 377 apuestas. ¿Cuál crees que es la razón? ¿Crees que es un mercado muy eficiente?

La NBA es difícil de seguir debiado a la diferencia horaria y también porque las líneas están mejor ajustadas que en Europa. Por esta razón he decidido no hacer más picks de la NBA.

¿Crees que es importante ver los partidos en TV?

Para mi no es algo importante para apostar.

¿Qué método de staking sigues? ¿Cuál es tu recomendación a los apostantes?

En mi propio servicio sólo uso flat stakes de 1 unidad. Creo que es el método de staking más profesional. Sobre la gestión del bankroll, no es recomendable apostar más de un 2-3% en una sóla apuesta.

En algunas ocasiones has dejado de enviar picks después de una mala racha. ¿Sugieres a otros tipsters hacer lo mismo? ¿Por qué?

En una mala racha es bueno limitar el número de picks y en algunas ocasiones incluso no apostar durante un corto periodo de tiempo, para descansar emocionalmente. Es siempre difícil trabajar bajo presión. Unos días libres pueden refrescar tu mente.

¿Qué opinas sobre las apuestas live en el baloncesto? ¿Crees que es más fácil o más difícil ganar dinero que con las apuestas pre-match?

No apuesto live en baloncesto; me resulta difícil encontrar valor en un periodo de tiempo tan corto. Las apuestas live sólo son bunas si ves que un jugador importante se lesiona o pasa alguna otra cosa similar, pero son excepciones.

Si tus números son buenos, ¿se puede vivir bien como tipster?

Seguro. Un buen tipster puede ganar más de 3,000 euros al mes fácilmente. Pero es muy difícil llegar a este status de “buen tipster”.

¿Qué consejos darías a aquéllos que quieren convertirse en Tipsters Profesionales?

Primero, que verifiquen sus picks. Unos números sin verificar no son nada. Mi servicio está verificado por 4 sites independientes, por lo que nadie puede dudar de que los resultados no son reales. Además, hay que tener paciencia, trabajar duro y si en 1-2 años tienes un yield cercano al 10% en más de 1000 apuestas entonces podrías ser profesional y empezar a hacer dinero con tus pronósticos.

¿Crees que hay muchos grandes potenciales tipsters “ocultos”… expertos en uno o varios deportes pero que no han dado el paso de meterse en este mundo por miedo o desconocimiento?

No, no lo creo. Un gran tipster potencial nunca tiene miedo. :-)

¿Nos puedes relatar cómo es un día normal en tu vida?

Empiezo a trabajar a las 8-9 de la mañana durante los fines de semana y a las 9-10 entre semana. A eso de las 12.00 envío los picks a mis suscriptores y me tomo un pequeño descanso. A partir de las 3-4 empiezo a analizar los partidos del día siguiente y me fabrico mi propia opinión sobre donde está el valor y cuáles pueden ser las líneas.

¿Qué haces en tu tiempo libre? ¿Cuáles son tus hobbies?

Lo que hace todo el mundo, nada especial. Me gusta ir al gimnasio, quedar con amigos y jugar al snooker (es mi hobby). También me gusta viajar y por eso hago 2-3 viajes fuera de mi país cada año.

¿Algún libro de apuestas deportivas que hayas leído y quieras recomendar?

Recomiendo el libro que escribiré, el resto no sirven :-). No he conseguido leer ningún libro de apuestas deportivas, incluso aunque lo he intentado muchas veces.

15 Responses to Andrei Nitu (AndreiNituBets)

  1. damien_nour

    Is Andrei Nitu still working for BetAdvisor? I see his stats or something like that on the new BetAdvisor platform. Are you guys back together?

  2. It has just been brought to my attention that the post I responded to was not written by Adrei Nitu but by Alun Evans. I apologies to Andrei for my laziness in assuming it was him, I made the mistake because it was on his Tipsters Mind page. Sorry Andrei.

    But my response to the criticism by Alun Evans still stands. Your criticism has no authority at all for all the reasons I’ve explained in the original reply. When Betadvisor stop claiming that all their tipsters are profitable in the long run then I will start to reconsider their credibility. As for me gaining if they drop clients, I hardly think that dropped clients (who presumably were dropped because they were not profitable) are going to offer Pyckio anything that needs to be paid attention to.

  3. This comment from Andrei is presumably in response to me refusing to accept his new football tipster for verification on the grounds that I have chosen no longer to accept service who have more than one tipster for the reasons I’ve explained on http://www.football-data.co.uk/blog/truth_about_sports_tipsters.php. As a summary, I consider these multi-tipster services as simply an attempt, through pure chance, to show something profitable which they can sell to customers. The more tipsters a service has the more likely that at least something will be profitable, even though there may be no skill involved.

    The problem with Betadvisor, unlike Pyckio, is with the opinion it has of its tipsters.

    On http://www.betadvisor.com/help/faq.html in the section under ANALYSTS is still says:

    “Do you recommend certain analysts over others?
    No, all are profitable in the long run.”

    Clearly that is untrue. Between the 15th May 2011 and the 31st October 2013 70 out of 118 tipsters were not profitable and a significant number have left before they started making a profit.

    To my knowledge Pyckio doesn’t make any claims that all its tipsters are profitable. Additionally, it is not making (and does not plan to make) money out of unskilled tipsters, unlike BA and all the other multi-tipster services which I now turn down for verification. To be clear, I am sure that BA and others think their tipsters are skilled, but a rigorous statistical analysis of their performance chose that the vast majority cannot possibly be so.

    Andrei asked me last week if I could verify his new Spanish football, Mateo Simone. He never once attempted to show me evidence of Mateo’s impressive record. Of course, it probably wouldn’t have made much difference, I would still probably have refused, on the grounds that Mateo ha only be chosen because of the survivorship bias. Find 1,000 novices who know nothing about betting to find matches to bet on and a few of them will show enough profitability to make them (and tipsters who wish to showcase them) believe that they actually have a special talent.

    So this why Andrei is making the comments that he has made. He believe he has found an angle with which to criticise me. But unfortunately his criticism has no authority at all for all the reasons I’ve explained above.

  4. Alun Evans

    I think it’s a bit rich for Joseph Buchdahl to be complaining about Bet Advisors credibility when I’ve seen a few articles from him now where he moans about Bet Advisor and doesn’t acknowledge that he has something to gain from them dropping clients. He’s a named pareticipator in this Pyckio projects. I don’t see how he can clame to be impartial now.

    People in glass houses etc etc.

  5. Without wishing to open up past wounds on this topic, I frankly have to treat anything that Betadvisor say in their own defence with a pinch of salt. Their own FAQs (http://www.betadvisor.com/help/faq.html) continue to claim that “all [their analysts] are profitable in the long run”. If that is the case, then how do they account for their own data showing that between the 15th May 2011 and the 31st October 2013 70 of the 118 sports tipsters working there during that time lost money. Presumably many of these tipsters were dropped by Betadvisor before they had made a profit, otherwise how else could their own ranking page show 41 profitable tipsters and no unprofitable ones at the time I undertook this analysis? Unless something is escaping by attention here, I believe the claim that all their tipsters are profitable in the long run is manifestly untrue and would fall foul of UK advertising standards if the site was registered in the UK. Whilst I’ve always respected what Betadvisor has been trying to achieve with its project, I maintain that it does itself no favours in the eyes of its detractors by continuing to publish such misinformation and not be more upfront about the true quality of the tipsters it works with, who in my opinion are almost entirely relying on luck rather then skill. Indeed, during the 2 and half year analysis period, only 2 of the 118 tipsters analysed could have delivered their records purely chance at the statistical significance level of 99%, and one of those was Andrei Nitu. That, of course, if not Betadvisor’s fault, this is quite a typical finding. Analayse a group of 100 tipping records from tipsters who believe they can forecast sports and on average you will almost always find performances normally distributed about an aggregated mean close to 0%, with good and bad luck accounting for perhaps as much as 95% of the work. This finding is to be expected, and we find it again in the financial sector: almost all fund managers are merely tossing coins and are unable to beat the market. Sports betting, like the stock market, is an wholly uncertain business, and where uncertainty reigns, very few people genuinely know how to tame it.

  6. In answer to your question, the idea of taking legal action was debated but we are based in France and Andrei is based in Romania, our lawyers advised us that taking legal action against him would require him to voluntarily come to France.

    Andrei’s market share was considerably higher than 27%, unless he is now selling subscriptions to many hundreds of clients, I can’t see that he could be making more money now than when he did with us.

    The only credible reason I can see for him wanting to leave the site was so that he wouldn’t have to be restricted by the measures we put in place to protect his clients.

  7. Dr. Who

    If he is the best tispter in europe, so I’m the first person who landed in Mars. Also whole Betadvisor is a scam site with good marketing and no good tipsters.

  8. Acebedo

    I was a client of Nitu during january 2012 until he left betadvisor as a consequence I must give my opinion.

    1) The first question is for Betadvisor;
    I would like to know why did not you take any legal action against nitu? Because as you said, in terms of contract andreinitu is a copyright of Betadvisor and he used this name within 6 months. In addition, he has given inside information in the forum of verifiedtipster. So why do not you take nitu to the court?

    2) The next question is for Nitu;
    Could you proof with objetive facts that you gave your best picks to your private investors?
    Nitu please, let’s be serious, because we are not children. In my opinion, you should proof all you say after that what you did in Betadvisor because honestly I do not really believe you. I do think that you invent that story because you lost around 1200 units since January 2013 and then you realised that with guaranteed profit ( until you do not get in positive you do not pay the tipster) of your clients, was very difficult recover those lost, and then you were not able to earn your salary per month like you got used every month.
    As a consequence, from my point of view you invent that history without any proof.

    3) Nitu, you said that Betadvisor did not pay you enough but I do not believe you again because your cost was in the last month 199 euros with full service and you said that betadvisor paid you around 27% and I guess that full service was around 100 clients so I guess that you got around 5373 euros.

    During January 2012 until May 2013 I lost money with Nitu, Why? Becuase i lost many bets by 1-2 points that were good for Nitu in spite of being in from of the laptop when he sent the tips.

    I am looking forward to hearing from Betadvisor and Nitu my questions.

    Regards.

  9. Baz

    I was one of Andrei’s clients who lost a fair chunk of my bankroll to whatever was happening at the start of the year. As much as it pissed me off, the fact is, he is the best euro tipster around, so I perhaps naievely signed up again. So far so good and I hope Andrei will be happier with full control.

  10. Papi

    “How has it been going for you since leaving Betadvisor?
    It’s much better because right now I have a direct contact with my clients and I know exactly what their needs are and how to make things work very well for both parts. Moreover, Betadvisor’s reward system for Tipsters is uncompetitive and that made me concentrate less on Betadvisor and more on private investors”

    So in other words you deliberetly made subscribers loose money,that is 1400 units about 70% of someones bankroll because you wern’t happy with terms you had with Betadvisor?Why not just split up and open your own service and those ppl would come to you instead of costing them a fortune?

    Its just laughable story dude,you had a loosing run and you cracked and left on bad terms with both subscribers and Betadvisor,so immature.
    http://www.betadvisor.com/tipsters/basketball/andrei-nitu

  11. We did renegotiate Andrei’s contract and he still chose to cheat your clients by giving them second rate tips when he was giving his “best” tips to the private investor he was contractually barred from working with. In terms of giving inside info, Andrei has already done that on the verifiedtipsters forum so it’s too late to try to take the high ground now.

    When he left, Andrei was paid everything up to the date we were contractually obliged, we stuck to the terms of the contract.

    He approached us about coming back but wanted control of the basketball section of the site, something we were not going to agree to and considering his actions when he was online, why would we?

    No tipsters accounts have EVER been deleted from the site, every one is still there, we just don’t link to the inactive tipsters in the rankings as we are no longer promoting them or selling subscriptions to their services.

    Andrei can try and twist this any way he likes but he had a contract and instead of respecting it and giving us notice, he worked with an outside party (against the terms of the contract) and set up his own site within 6 months of leaving the site (against the terms of the contract).

    The money he says we “owe” him was used to refund clients who did not want to switch to other tipsters and giving away subscriptions actually has a cost to us, business’ cost money to run and sending out sms’ and running email servers is not free.

  12. Please stop with all these lies. I understand you make money from lying your clients ( eg: site has a 0,5% yield overall, you put no proof records on site) but sometimes it doesn’t work.
    I really don’t want to give inside info, but betadvisor reward system is very poor, all people who I said how much you gave me they lough in my face.

    And lets do it this way:

    Lie no1: you say is so “bizzare” that I complain, is not like I was tolding you 1 year before I left that I want to negociate the contract and I’m unhappy with the money.

    Lie no2: When I left, you were owning me a lot of money wich I never saw it, and now is very funny that you say you compensate the clients, by giving them subscription to another of your tipsters. Very funny really.

    Lie no3: Is was not about me comming back to betadvisor, was about a colaboration, wich you said to work with one of your actual tipsters and I said no. “politely refused” :))

    Lie no4: Why you don’t delete my account from betadvisor like you do with all your lossing tipsters? You keep me there to improve your overall results, but I’m not allowed to speak about my previous work? Again funny.

    I also wish you all the best, but when you don’t do the things correct and with honesty, is hard to live on long term.

  13. We find it bizarre that Andrei should complain about BetAdvisors rewards system, we did everything we could to keep him happy during his time with BetAdvisor and he still chose to break the terms of his contract and work with “private investors” to the cost of his BetAdvisor client base.  After causing all of the damage, we were the ones who were left to compensate his clients.

    Our rewards system is advantageous enough for all of the tipsters we currently have on the site and considering Andrei asked about coming back not that long ago (an enquiry that was politely refused) clearly we aren’t doing that bad a job.

    We wish Andrei all the best for the future but it might be best if he chose to stand on his own two feet instead of using his past with BetAdvisor both as a way of promoting his own site and as a stick to beat us with when he was the one who broke both the contract and his clients trust.

  14. We find it bizarre that Andrei should complain about BetAdvisors rewards system, we did everything we could to keep him happy during his time with BetAdvisor and he still chose to break the terms of his contract and work with “private investors” to the cost of his BetAdvisor client base. After causing all of the damage, we were the ones who were left to compensate his clients.

    Our rewards system is advantageous enough for all of the tipsters we currently have on the site and considering Andrei asked about coming back not that long ago (an enquiry that was politely refused) clearly we aren’t doing that bad a job.

    We wish Andrei all the best for the future but it might be best if he chose to stand on his own two feet instead of using his past with BetAdvisor both as a way of promoting his own site and as a stick to beat us with when he was the one who broke both the contract and his clients trust.

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